Wednesday, June 20, 2007

Pirates 4 details

From cinemablend, Some franchises just don’t know when to quit. Whether or not people are getting sick and tired of the whole Pirates of the Caribbean thing, when a franchise makes that much money, it’s hard to let it die. We’ve been hearing rumblings about a possible fourth Pirates of the Caribbean movie for months now, but tonight I got an email from the old friend of the site which not only confirmed a fourth movie will almost certainly be happening, but dropped details on where the series may end up going when it continues.

Our source says that Pirates of the Caribbean 4 is no longer just a possibility, it’s almost a certainty. More importantly, Johnny Depp is all but assured to return, though our scooper claims he may end up making as much as $35 - $40 million to do it. Also returning will be Geoffrey Rush and Gore Verbinski as director, but forget about the rest of the cast because from now on the movies will only be about Captain Jack. That’s right, Pirates 4 will cast aside Will and Elizabeth to make it an all Jack Sparrow movie. That won’t be the only change Disney is planning to make when the series continues though.

Our scooper says, “the ending of Pirates 3, the fountain of youth story might not be the only story they might used the next pirate’s film. The fountain story could used in another form to introduce the story for Pirates 4… the next film might be a departure from the same formula of the last three movies as well, meaning that Jerry Bruckheimer could be planning to enter the realm of Science Fiction this time around and it could be the heart of a new trilogy with Jack Sparrow and his crew of misfits. Some of the brainstorming going around involves some Jules Verne type of scenarios involving some pretty big flying machines, a man who wants to rule more than just the ocean, a encounter with the most famous and dangerous pirate of all, a race to get to a lost world (Hint, Hint) and Jack and his crew going to where no pirate has gone before (No, its not space but Disney had made animated movie about this place before with Michel J Fox voicing one of the characters).”

Pirates science fiction? What the heck? The Michael J. Fox movie our source is referring to is almost certainly Atlantis, which would tie in the Jules Verne and science fiction elements mentioned. Apparently we’ll also get more of Jack’s past and his family, which could also mean more Keith Richards. I’d actually be ok with that, Keith was surprisingly good. Don’t get too attached to the idea of another Pirates of the Caribbean sequel though. Our insider thinks that Disney plans to take a long, long breather between Pirates movies: “word is that the start date could be around 2009 to 2011.” I don’t think we need another Pirates sequel, but if they’re going to do one, giving the franchise time to recharge is probably a very good idea. As always, consider everything above as nothing but rumor till something more develops. Our source is a proven one, but if we can’t give you our source, then consider anything we tell you as unconfirmed gossip

7 comments:

Johnny Sweatpants said...

It suddenly dawned on me that I don't think the Pirates movies are "all that". Is it just me or are they soulless and meandering?

JPX said...

Has nayone seen the third one? I've been avoiding it after hearing so much negative press. Do yourself a favor and see FF2 instead, it was a pleasant surprise.

Octopunk said...

I saw the third one! For free, thanks to my roommate.

Pirates 3 and Spiderman 3 leave you feeling pretty much the same, as if instead of watching a plot propelling itself forward to its conclusion, you were watching a group of big, clunky story elements (think rusty car parts, or pots and pans) rolling down a hill, banging together until they thankfully reached the bottom.

I think both movies prove that spectacle really isn't enough by itself.

Octopunk said...

Also, the plots got totally out of hand. If you've ever seen Clive Barker's Hellbound or Night Breed, or read one of his novels, you've found yourself knocked around by his inability to plot. Night Breed, for instance, is all "let's go to the cemetary with the secret world beneath it! Let's go back to the town! Back to the cemetary! Back to the town!"

The first Pirates has a plot much like that, if you follow who's a prisoner of whom, who's got a deal with whom, etc. Lots going on. BUT, they weave the elements together so well you don't really notice, it all follows through pretty organically.

Not so with the sequels, especially Pirates 3. I started getting extremely irritated every time a group of characters was standing around and suddenly someone significantly raises an eyebrow, someone else goes "what?!" and then has a bunch of guns pulled on him. Super yawn.

Octopunk said...

HOWEVER. All that said, I think the elements mentioned in this Pirates 4 article are pretty exciting. I really think Steampunk is going to have its day in the cinematic sun (here's the Wiki page on Steampunk if you're not sure what I'm talking about). There's fodder for multiple stories there, and so far very few actual movies have taken advantage of it.

Johnny Depp making 35 million to have Captain Jack (without Bloom and Knightly, which feels like a weight off my chest) dealing with flying machines and Atlantis? I'm on board.

JPX said...

Yeah that's pretty much what I suspected. Damn, the summer movies have blown so far, except FF2, which I really dug.

What did you think of FF2, Octo?

Octopunk said...

Working on that answer!

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